Nothing intentionally, but once I was giving a bible reading and while reading I thought I had messed up, so I abruptly stopped short of reading all of the word "kingship" (I read "kingshi-")and it sounded like I said "king's sh!t". After that it was all I could do to finish the reading and I DID NOT look up at the audience anymore!!!
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Have you ever intentionally said crazy things from the platform?
by B_Deserter inlike have you said stuff that is just outright insane like "each and every one of us should be ready and willing to die for the society" purely in the hopes that you'd turn someone off?
i imagine for most of us trying to fade that would be the most difficult thing to do, but some people are really good at shutting down and just going with a flow, too.. .
i ask because it's the only possible explanation i can come up with for some of the really bat-shit insane stuff i've heard come from the podium.
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I just stumped our PO!!!
by The Last Nephilim ini have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!
he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?
) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.
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Liberty- thanks for the heads up. I did actually know that the Greek scriptures never contained the name "Jehovah" but I also thought it compelling that the times when 1st century bible writers quoted OT scripture that originally contained the name, they left it out. This is the reason the WTS puts it in there. They say that if it appeared in the original OT verse, then it should appear in the Greek quotations as well. Also, in the appendix of the KIT, on page 1133, they give more "proof" that the Hebrew Tetragrammaton appeared in early copies of the Septuagint, thereby proving that the divine name belongs in the GNT. I say that it's mighty fishy that Jesus, when praying, never says "Jehovah", even in the "model" prayer. Hmm...
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I don't want to worship a God that.............
by oompa inwould kill billions of people for any reason.. would require family members to not speak to a member of their own family.. would require a parent to stone a child for being a bad boy.. would require probably millions of animals to be slaughtered and make smoke for him.. would let a rapist of a young girl have the privilege of marrying her.. would let mankind suffer for thousands of years to prove something to his heavenly creatures.. would let horrible "natural" tragedies occur, killing millions of people, when they don't have to happen.. would communicate to mankind by writing to them.....but not keep any originals around....like pyramids.. would want to be worshiped in the first place.....i just don't get it........................you can add your own if you want..........oompa.
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How about a God who promises to "bless" you per Malachi 3:10 by "opening up the floodgates of the heavens" to you, yet despite all your efforts and contributions, you continually get the shaft at work, in the congregation, and even at home. Meanwhile, Brother PO, whom you know is a (insert infraction here, in my case crooked business dealings and partiality in the cong.) gets a brand new $30k vehicle every two years, has a "perfect" family, and his biggest worry is whether or not the KH is in shape for the CO's visit! Then sitting on the other side of the Hall is old Sister "Dirt Poor", a widow who walks with a cane and often has to bum a ride to the meetings, worries about where she's going to move to the next time she gets evicted for not having rent money, yet she's always out in service getting 30+ hours a month. Sure, you may have it better off than Sister Dirt Poor, but she gets more time in service than you AND the PO, meanwhile the PO is getting 10-12 hours a month compared to your 15. The question is, where are those "open floodgates" of the heavens for you and sister Dirt Poor until there is NO MORE WANT!???
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I don't want to worship a God that.............
by oompa inwould kill billions of people for any reason.. would require family members to not speak to a member of their own family.. would require a parent to stone a child for being a bad boy.. would require probably millions of animals to be slaughtered and make smoke for him.. would let a rapist of a young girl have the privilege of marrying her.. would let mankind suffer for thousands of years to prove something to his heavenly creatures.. would let horrible "natural" tragedies occur, killing millions of people, when they don't have to happen.. would communicate to mankind by writing to them.....but not keep any originals around....like pyramids.. would want to be worshiped in the first place.....i just don't get it........................you can add your own if you want..........oompa.
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Speaking of "causing" vs. "allowing", aren't you, in effect, "causing" something when you know that a condition exists that, if unrestrained or eliminated, would cause suffering and you have the power to stop it, but don't????
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I don't want to worship a God that.............
by oompa inwould kill billions of people for any reason.. would require family members to not speak to a member of their own family.. would require a parent to stone a child for being a bad boy.. would require probably millions of animals to be slaughtered and make smoke for him.. would let a rapist of a young girl have the privilege of marrying her.. would let mankind suffer for thousands of years to prove something to his heavenly creatures.. would let horrible "natural" tragedies occur, killing millions of people, when they don't have to happen.. would communicate to mankind by writing to them.....but not keep any originals around....like pyramids.. would want to be worshiped in the first place.....i just don't get it........................you can add your own if you want..........oompa.
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Along the human suffering lines, how about a God who doesn't CAUSE bad things to happen, but ALLOWS them to. Think about it- I won't teach my child to be a murderer, but I'll allow others to teach him, all the while saying, "No, no- you shouldn't do that!" and doing nothing about it until it's too late and the child has murdered over and over again, only to tell the victim's families that they will suffer the same fate permanently if they aren't forgiving!
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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I'm sure our PO will be PO'd!!!!
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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PO to be done away with? How ever will they be able to identify apostates at the local level without the all- knowing PO? I like the idea, though. Our PO rules with an iron fist!!!!
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I just stumped our PO!!!
by The Last Nephilim ini have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!
he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?
) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.
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It is always checked by default, but still no smiley under the subject line...
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I just stumped our PO!!!
by The Last Nephilim ini have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!
he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?
) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.
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I have no smiley face under the subject line. Directly under the subject line is my Post box where I'm typing this...
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Let JWD find the true number of partakers!
by cultswatter ini've heard stories that most congregations have no partakers at all.
if there are approx 9000 partakers in 90,000 congregations then 81,000 congregations don't have partakers.
i just don't believe that - how bout you??
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I knew of 2 from other halls (one was my ex's uncle, the other died a couple years back). Now we have one just moved into our hall. What always bothered me was that out of 6 million+ Witnesses worldwide it just seems that a large percentage of the 8-9k anointed still alive must be in the USA, which seems fishy to me. I would like to see a breakdown of how many anointed from each country are partaking. I bet that would raise some eyebrows!!
Oh yeah, maybe this is why they've cautioned congregations about people falsely partaking recently!!! That would make sense! If the numbers are getting ridiculously high, the GB must account for it by saying that some are partaking "unworthily". I bet that's it!!!